tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post7525962334770064998..comments2024-03-21T12:09:12.775-07:00Comments on Mahabharata Podcast: Episode 81 - DownfallLawrence Manzohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-74283175629311188162014-11-21T10:50:25.493-08:002014-11-21T10:50:25.493-08:00So why then did Bhima win? I believe that there i...So why then did Bhima win? I believe that there is a message hidden in this story, which is that karma and destiny will always work themselves out perfectly, even if it means sometimes breaking the rules. <br /><br />In other words, would the larger story of the Mahabharata have worked itself out better had Duryodhana won the fight? What would have happened if Duryodhana had won? It seems like Krishna would have had a mess on his hands!Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-22095872439149996912014-11-21T04:34:18.603-08:002014-11-21T04:34:18.603-08:00Its written as "he has finally received his w...Its written as "he has finally received his well-deserved defeat" ( Duryodhana) ..<br /><br />Well , we all know, Great Balarama was referee in the battle of Duryodhana and Bhima. and even shri krishna and everyone knew that Though Bhima is huge , Duryodhana is best after balarama. <br />Even Balarama said after battle, Bhima did not battle with dharma and my student Duryodhana is greatest in the world . Duryodhana was clever and battled with brain but when bhima could not do anything , he was told to hit on the knees of Duryodhana ( which is against the rule of war) . <br /><br />Duryodhana , deserved to win if we look at battle of bhima and duryodhana .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-38231409582560448172011-11-26T13:12:03.193-08:002011-11-26T13:12:03.193-08:00Sorry. I just replaced this audio with the bad wo...Sorry. I just replaced this audio with the bad word bleeped out. I guess I got too emotional-- after all they'd just been through, it took a lot of nerve to criticize Yuddistira over his brother's comportment! Maybe next time I use a bad word I'll remember to bleep it out in advance...Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-51947380098286244852011-11-25T22:54:07.743-08:002011-11-25T22:54:07.743-08:00You are doing a great work, can you kindly avoid f...You are doing a great work, can you kindly avoid filthy words f... etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-31743341090311671472011-11-18T10:42:49.052-08:002011-11-18T10:42:49.052-08:00I've basically run past the available volumes ...I've basically run past the available volumes of the CSL. The Drona Parva was only half-done, and apparently the Sauptika Parva is not out yet, nor are there any later parvas ready, so those are simply not available. <br />It is probably just as well, because it was breaking my bank. They divide each Parva up into at least two volumes, each for $22. It was getting expensive! <br />I've never seen the P. Lal translation. If you have any links to find it, I'll look it up. Otherwise, I'm running low on options, so it looks like Ganguli will have to do! Thanks.Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-82167067217823608762011-11-17T21:41:20.944-08:002011-11-17T21:41:20.944-08:00*vis-a-vis*vis-a-visAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-71143121330665026722011-11-17T21:25:25.897-08:002011-11-17T21:25:25.897-08:00how are you coping with Ganguli! I've approach...how are you coping with Ganguli! I've approached it on several occasions only to give up, what with the convoluted language and long-drawn-out tangential passages. ideally one would prefer a version as close to the CE as possible, but given the drawbacks of English viz. Sanskrit retellings seem more the way to go.<br />as far as I know CSL has attempted a (close-to-) exhaustive translation--how do you like their volumes? how many books are they missing?<br />also: I believe P. Lal is another to translate the epic in its entirety. unfortunately this translation proves a difficult search, even though 16 of his 18 volumes have been reprinted since 2005.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-28048472441610167662011-11-17T11:00:51.052-08:002011-11-17T11:00:51.052-08:00It's been a long, complicated journey. I'...It's been a long, complicated journey. I've been using the Clay Sanskrit Library volumes for the battle books up thru the end of the Karna Parva. Starting with the Shalya Parva, I've resorted to Ganguli. I think I may use Ganguli exclusively from here on out. <br /><br />Ganguli is the guy who consistently translated the entire epic. So far I've flitted from one translator to another, some using the Critical Edition exclusively while others dipped into the Bombay & Calcutta rescensions. <br /><br />It's unfortunate that there is no complete translation of the Critical Edition, so now I think I'll save some money and stick to Ganguli.Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-84224354081317567632011-11-16T15:43:01.152-08:002011-11-16T15:43:01.152-08:00Hello Lawrence.
Great work ..
which book are you f...Hello Lawrence.<br />Great work ..<br />which book are you following;Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-18715331104588316082011-11-16T14:39:33.062-08:002011-11-16T14:39:33.062-08:00If anyone needs an English copy of the Ramayana (e...If anyone needs an English copy of the Ramayana (ebook), there's one here:<br /><br />http://www.holybooks.com/ramayana/George Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01090954741041036264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-69535069970948408212011-11-16T02:54:37.742-08:002011-11-16T02:54:37.742-08:00lawrence lord krishna bless you , you have done a ...lawrence lord krishna bless you , you have done a remarkable seva.Indian puranic history needs to be opened to the english speaking world. similarly the Arabs-spanish-portugal-chinese versions will be a ultimate acheivment. but for now please concentrate on this only.s kumar kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976052542148971367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-90874882080682611092011-11-15T10:12:22.910-08:002011-11-15T10:12:22.910-08:00Gaurav: Sorry, no Ramayana here. The only podcas...Gaurav: Sorry, no Ramayana here. The only podcast I've found is on iTunes, where the podcaster attempted to read directly from the unabridged Tulsidas text. I think he might have given up. At least I never made it very far listening to it!Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-12111584500771712992011-11-15T10:09:22.049-08:002011-11-15T10:09:22.049-08:00Ash: Unfortunately, I do not have a complete tran...Ash: Unfortunately, I do not have a complete translation sitting on the shelf to be able to judge how far we are into this. I've been buying the Parvas piecemeal as we go along, and now I'm depending on an electronic version of Ganguli's translation. But by the looks of it, we are only 2/3rds of the way through the text. In terms of the story however, we must be much closer to the end. A large chunk of what remains are Bhisma's teachings, which I plan on mostly skimming over! But other than that, we're going all the way to the end!Lawrence Manzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12849457241634723440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-71555331287004962782011-11-15T10:03:28.006-08:002011-11-15T10:03:28.006-08:00Lawrence,
Thank you very much for this podcast.
L...Lawrence,<br /><br />Thank you very much for this podcast.<br />Love the effort you have put in creating this podcast.<br /><br />Do you have anything similar to the Ramayana as well?<br /><br />GauravGauravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17923442560383813918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5100791158359408086.post-24727658162319781612011-11-15T06:29:59.687-08:002011-11-15T06:29:59.687-08:00excellent podcast. just wondering in terms of txt ...excellent podcast. just wondering in terms of txt how far are we through the epic. I know most of the story through my mother, and other family and friends, however they always stop at once the war is over and the panadva's rule again. surely there is more to this story? will you be taking it all the way to the end of their lives?Ashnoreply@blogger.com